it fit as pattern with not only the obama administration and mrs. clinton. she started her tenure going to china refusing to raise human rights issues but saying issues like climate change were too important so she couldn't raise human rights. this is norm with iran. refusing to raise any issue seriously with the government beyond the nuclear weapons program. martha: i wao point out the video people are seeing to the right of you is ev prison which is a notorious prison. the conditions we heard from the pastor's wife, up until now they were able to speak to him on the phone. his children were able to speak with him on the phone. his family in iran was able to visit with him once in a while. he is in a much more isolated part of the prison and that communication will be cut off completely. how would you as a senior state department advisor how would you advise the administration to try to deal with this subject? >> well the more publicity can be brought to this, the more pressure can be applied, the better. frankly dealing with dissidents, i would call this m